Messageboard
 subject: "The fields and refs issue for this year."
SHAY
league commissioner


Apr 21, 2010
6:17 PM

ANNOUNCEMENT:

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I hope this post will satisfy or at least give players a better understanding of what has happened with the IFFL this year.

One question was who runs the IFFL:

Myself (Shay) and Tom run this league. Tom is in charge of the FCFFL and I am in charge of the IFFL but we run both league together.

Yes, we see all the complaints and we both can see they are either about the refs or the fields.

The Field issue:

As stated earlier this year on the board, and once again, Tom and I have no control over the fields we are allocated for the IFFL and the FCFFL. The fields are allocated to the IFFL and FCFFL by the Fairfax County Parks and Rec Department.

We have been advised as far as Spring Season is concerned, Adult Football probably wont be getting any of the turf field on Sunday`s or for that matter any of the level 1 grass fields either this year or in the near future. Those fields will go to any youth sports first, then soccer, and lacrosse whatever is left we get on Sunday mornings.

The reason we get them for the night league in the spring is the youth leagues are generally off of them by 8PM, so we got lucky we got the turf fields that we do for the spring night league.

In addition there has been a large increase in Sunday mornings in soccer leagues and teams, particularly in the Adult Male Spanish leagues, and they get priority in the Spring over any football.

Tom and I have been told that both the league will get priority for turf fields in the fall season, all we can do is hope that is true.

The Ref issue:

For the last few years Bull Run Assoc. which was run by John and Carlton have been contracted to do the games for the FCFFL and IFFL. As many of you know and some don`t there was a spilt within Bull Run. This was an internal matter within Bull Run Assoc. which Tom and I had nothing to d with.

After John and Carlton went there separate ways Tom and I agreed with John and Carlton that each would get one league, John (Bull Run) got IFFL and Carlton got FCFFL.

Tom and I have seen all the complaints and as far as the officials for 2010 Fall that will be decided when Tom and I talk with the coaches (any players that contact us) from both leagues and review the officials from both associations.

Last but not least after being notified by Grand Hustle that they would not finish the season Tom and I offered any team that wanted out a prorated refund. We didn`t want any teams to drop out but to be fair we wanted to let any other team that wanted out the chance to get out.

Good news is no additional teams contacted us. We appreciate the fact the remaining teams are going to finish the season.

If any player, or coach would like further explanation or to give me there input then please by all means feel free to contact me direct.

All you have to do is go to the web site and then go to the League Info tab then the Contact Us tab. Your email will go direct to me and I will get back to you.



Rhinos Coach
Rhinos
coach



Apr 22, 2010
11:01 AM
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Shay, thanks for all of the info. The vast majority of us appreciate all the work you and Tom put into this.

Mitch
Swarm


Apr 22, 2010
11:28 AM
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Thanks Shay. Appreciate the update. Crappy situation and I hope they improve this fall. Is there any way to push some sort of involvement on the boards from the officials or at least a head official? I haven`t seen a question answered by one of them in a long long time.

Field Issue

Apr 22, 2010
1:47 PM
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If it would help, I know many of us would be willing to go check the use of fields. When we have talked to the county about field issues before they have mentioned that they have a problem with fields being booked but not used. I would have no problem calling these people out (date, field, and time of unused fields passed on to the county) if it meant we get better fields in the future! Just let me know what fields you want me to check out when and I`ll be there!

SHAY
league commissioner


Apr 22, 2010
1:47 PM
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Mitch, that was a good question!

John (head ref for Bull Run) monitors the web site from time to time, but as far as complaints he answers the one`s that I get direct from coach`s/players from the league email address.

So if you or ANY team have a specific issue during a game with refs, the rules, and how a game was or wasn`t called, PLEASE email me direct from the Contact US tab on the web site.

Once I get it all I do is forward it direct to John, he then will reply direct to that coach or player.

When you or any coach does send that email to me make sure you put what field you where on and game time.

S

Official 1

Apr 24, 2010
8:03 PM
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Shay, I believe there are to groups on week nights (Carlton and MD), correct? to Mitch..I answer as Official 1 (John)
I will always respond to any compliant or issue concerning the Flag Football program of which I have been a part of for over 35 years!

re: Official 1

Apr 25, 2010
7:50 AM
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Did you really mean "to", surely you meant "two". Please take the time to review your post before you hit the "POST REPLY" button

re: re: Official 1

Apr 25, 2010
9:24 AM
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Yo he`s a ref, not an english major

^

Apr 25, 2010
10:24 AM
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haha, now that was funny, although a certain level of education should be required so they can interpret the rule book

*

May 02, 2010
2:21 PM
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Refs were awesome at EC today, glad to have the old crew back (only at EC)

play

May 02, 2010
5:56 PM
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* who do you play for ?? I had the regular officials at hook rd today. They were great!

re: play

May 02, 2010
7:11 PM
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haha joker... asking for someone to provide their team name or player name and you dont even post as a registered player

An Official at Greenbriar

May 02, 2010
11:03 PM
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An official at Greenbriar Park made a comment after an INT on a 2 PT Conversion that he did not know the rule regarding the play of an INT. He was not sure if the player could return it or not. Best of all, he openly omitted that on the field just before players from both teams informed him of the rule. You would think the Officials would known the rules the best. They need to get on one page. That is my 2 cents.

play

May 03, 2010
10:21 AM
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to * What team are you with, maybe you are not a player.


ref

May 03, 2010
9:08 PM
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It is dead!

dave williams

May 19, 2010
8:42 PM
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show us some money now$$$ ******s day games and i had a hangover

GEORGE

Jun 01, 2010
6:18 PM
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WOW !WE GET REFS WE PAID FOR!!SHOULD I THANK "OBAAAMA" HE "S A CROOK TO

an offical

Jun 01, 2010
8:57 PM
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to George: maybe we will see a "real player"

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