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 subject: "B+ Playoffs after today"
Portly fellow

Oct 19, 2008
4:25 PM

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United Vs. Pain-
Most intriguing match-up of the first round with Pain having a rough stretch and ending up squeaking in with the 4th seed. I`m looking for this to be an upset game with Pain taking it 17-14

PKL Vs Psquad-
PKL is one of the most athletic teams across the oard n the league and their overall team speed will be to much for PS in this one. PKL 28 -PS 10

Hokies Vs Outlaws
The Hokies who have quietly snagged the #2 spot in the National are in for a fight against a big Outlaws team. I see this as a one sided affair with the Hokies being unable to block the Outlaws D-Line. Outlaws win 20-10

Pens Vs Diesel
Which Diesel team will show up? Only time will tell but I believe to continue their one and done streak alive i the playoffs losing to the Pens 14-7

United 33

Oct 19, 2008
4:38 PM
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OK here are my picks:

United (obviously) We`ve met before and always have good games. 14-7
PKL - PS is overmatched here
Outlaws - Hokies have no chance against this veteran team 21-10
Diesel - Pens have never seen an offense like this 28-7

Final four will have 3 American teams and show true dominance.

Finals prediction - United v. Diesel

Get your popcorn ready!!!

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 19, 2008
4:47 PM
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My picks:

United v Pain - Depends on which Pain team shows up. They get everyone there and I think United goes home early.

PKL v P-Squad - PS will play this tougher than most people think they will. PS does a good job containing a scrambling QB, the question is whether they can do it on offense. I say they do and take PS by a field goal.

Hokies v Outlaws - Hokies QB is nasty with his feet, but until today they hadn`t beaten anyone with a winning record. I`d also say while the Penetrators probably didn`t give this game away, I`d bet they may have taken it a little bit easier than normal. Outlaws win by 2 scores.

Diesel v Penetrators - As long as Diesel`s full squad shows (the new Pain??) they`ll handle the Penetrators. Especially when you consider #10 on Diesel is probably the only guy in the league who can hang speed-wise with the Pens` #0.

Semi-Finals
Pain v P-Squad - Pain wins going away.
Outlaws v Diesel - Diesel.

Finals
Diesel v Pain - Pain pulls it all together and sends Diesel home.

Steve, I am sorry

Oct 19, 2008
5:25 PM
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but PS is outmatched in every category and I am sure next week, they will wish they were in the "B" playoffs as they would have a chance to win that one. PKL is just way to strong. Hokies/Outlaws game will be close, to close to call. I would say the score will be 13-10, whomever. I agree with you on the other games, though.

Should B+

Oct 19, 2008
5:28 PM
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All B+ teams get seeded 1-8 and lets start the playoff, no American and National.... record, avPD...OR American 1-4 play to represent American League and same for National... American Team plays National Team for Ship

?

Oct 19, 2008
5:28 PM
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Is Pain last because they have a tie on their record? I thought PS would be last? Can someone confirm?


Steve Ahbahba

Oct 19, 2008
5:33 PM
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That`s fine, we can`t agree on everything. But as far as the Hokies/Outlaws game goes I truly believe the Outlaws D-Line will be too much for their O-line, and they`ll be disciplined enough to contain their QB. The only thing that could hurt the Outlaws would be if the wrong QB is playing.

Why is Pain

Oct 19, 2008
5:52 PM
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ranked 8th when their record is 4-2-1 and Practice Squad is ranked 7th when their record is 4-3? Pain has a better record!

please

Oct 19, 2008
5:57 PM
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go to the overall rankings page, thats how the playoff seeding "should" work. You cant use American League Seeding and National League Seeding then match up one American League Seeded against a National League Seeded Team. If an American League Team needs to play a National League Team then you MUST use the overall seeding to START damn.... I am sure Tom has this all figured out, right?

re: please

Oct 19, 2008
6:03 PM
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Win/Loss/Ties have nothing to do with rankings? I beg to differ. Simple math, your record is 4-2-1 and the other guy has 1 more loss, you would be ranked higher. That simple. Now if we were taliking playoffs than I give you that, but I was talking overall rankings and you analyzed it the wrong way.

the

Oct 19, 2008
6:06 PM
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scedule for next week is already out

ps

Oct 19, 2008
6:07 PM
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is 7th because they are still 4-2 on their..

well that is wrong,

Oct 19, 2008
6:12 PM
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they have 3 losses and it should be noted! TOMMMMMMMMMMM, please fix it.

Al Bundy

Practice Squad #72


Oct 19, 2008
6:15 PM
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It doesn`t make a difference on the schedule though, right? We`re the last seed in American playing the first seed in National.

re: Al

Oct 19, 2008
6:19 PM
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Not directed at you Bundy, but just want to make note, if Tom is doing the seeding other then re: please, then there is a fundamental flaw in the approach... makes little to no sense

PS and Hokies

Oct 19, 2008
6:20 PM
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do not belong. Commend them for getting there, though.

Tom

Oct 19, 2008
6:21 PM
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Could you comment on the logic for your seeding for the playoffs?

re: re: please

Oct 19, 2008
6:23 PM
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I dont even know what you are saying, follow along with my logic, you cant take the seeding of two different leagues and then match them up in the game, what dont you understand?

I commend them,

Oct 19, 2008
6:23 PM
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NEXT! United will go undefeated in the playoffs and win another Championship!

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 19, 2008
6:25 PM
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Yeah, but it may not be the best way, but anything else will take you down a BCS style seeding. God knows we don`t need that.

True

Oct 19, 2008
6:29 PM
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I`ll give props to Hokies for making some noise in their second season in the B league and PS for making some noise in their first season after moving up considering people, I included, counted them out in the beginning of the season. But I just don`t think they`ll be able to do much in the B+. Hokies might be able to do something, especially against Outlaws, if their offense gets going. It all depends on their QB.

Vet

Oct 19, 2008
6:31 PM
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Must be a Pain player that wrote the above comment...no need to pump your team up for United. You guys will dominate them. BIGGER, STRONGER AND FASTER...DING DING, GAME OVER!

re: re: re: please

Oct 19, 2008
6:40 PM
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Go to the Overall Standings page and you will see rankings regardless of division. Which is based on wins/losses/ties/points etc. Now under your logic the rankings should go National Team then American team, then National Team then American team all the way down to 20. Explain the below, if you agree then why is PS 7th and Pain is 8th?

Overall Rankings
9 Mutiny NATIONAL
10 Larrys AMERICAN
11 Arsenals AMERICAN
12 Nighthawks AMERICAN
13 Goldrush NATIONAL
14 Team America NATIONAL
15 Team Franchise AMERICAN
16 Genocide eliminated due to loss to CN Sep 21, 2008
17 Midgets consolation
18 Chuck Norris NATIONAL
19 Grand Hustle consolation
20 Acid Reign will be home

wondering

Oct 19, 2008
6:46 PM
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I dont think we are saying you alternate (not sure if thats what you are saying) but you rank via overall standings and then match up via 8 seeds NOT 4 in one conference play 4 seeds in another, isnt that happening?

Not talking about

Oct 19, 2008
6:51 PM
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playoffs, I am strictly talking about overall rankings. The final eight would still remain if PS was 8th and Pain 7th. However, a team`s record of 4-2-1 is better than a team 4-3, would you agree?

re: not talking about

Oct 19, 2008
6:54 PM
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yes sir, that i would agree, but the schedule for the B+ playoffs makes no sense to me, i dont follow the logic, i wish Tom would weigh in

TOM
admin


Oct 19, 2008
7:01 PM
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Per the pinned announcement from october 7, 2008:

The top 4 from each division will go to the "B+" playoffs, next 4 to the "B", and the bottom 2 from each B division will play in a 4-team consolation tournament

If we ranked according to overall standings, then one division would have 5 teams in B+ and the other would have 3 - so overall ranking is not used to determined seedings.

Tom

Oct 19, 2008
7:02 PM
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hates us, as we are a bunch a whining babies who never get our way. If you were Tom would you weigh in?

re: Tom

Oct 19, 2008
7:14 PM
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Hey Tom thanks for the info...but, shouldn`t you match up each of the 4 teams (within own Division) to play each other, then American plays National for the Ship

I agree

Oct 19, 2008
7:16 PM
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with re: Tom, but I am just a player not the commish.

also

Oct 19, 2008
7:17 PM
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for the poser under "Tom" we are just asking for clarification, why is that whining, if you dont like what people are posting, go watch the Skins game...(highlights)

yeah,

Oct 19, 2008
7:20 PM
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I would like clarification, whose with me?

player

Oct 19, 2008
7:20 PM
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are Genocide and Acid going to play in the consolation bracket?

Dan Marino

Oct 19, 2008
7:20 PM
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Here is the scoop you snitches:

Pain - will beat United, as an above poster mentioned they are much bigger, younger and faster then United. I almost predicted the upset of United/Outlaws but United squeaked out the winner. Have you seen the Pain QB, fast, fast, fast. Pain 24-10
PS - The newcomer to the league beats PKL in a squeaker. PS had a wake up call this week against one of the best teams in the league that just had a slow start. They`ll hold onto this one 21-20
Outlaws - The veteran team wins here against the Hokies. Outlaws probably should have beaten United this week.
Pens - Did you see the stinker Diesel has put up the last three weeks? This team is not worth the hype, Diesel 14 Pens 21

That`s it snitches, getcha popcorn ready.

P.S Team Franchise wins B

Brackets

Oct 19, 2008
7:25 PM
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Brackets are up

re: Dan Marino

Oct 19, 2008
8:40 PM
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How does PS squeak out a win over PKL? No one has scored over 14 points in a game vs PKL. Not to mention PS offense has some trouble in the scoring department... 82 total points... Where PKL`s defense has only allowed 60 points all season, including two high scoring offensives. I will give PS credit on their defensive stand for the minimal points they have allowed, 66. Meanwhile the offense of PKL has put up 170 points... Trying to figure out the logic. Seems to me that Mr. Marino is picking all upsets in the hopes that one is correct... I would place my money on another game.

ESPN 8 "the ocho"

Oct 19, 2008
8:46 PM
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United Vs Pain
This should be a good game, but I think that if you play as a team, you win as a team.. so I’m going to have to pick United in this one, with the caveat that Pain has playmakers and sometimes in big games that`s all it takes.
United 21-17

PKL Vs PS
PS matches up okay in this one, but having said that... I still think they are a little out of their league in the B+ playoffs. So, no doubt PKL takes this one, they have team speed and work as a team.
PKL 28-13

Hokies Vs Outlaws
The Hokies are a team that I have seen personally in the past and I`m not surprised at all to see them make the run they have so far. They have a pretty solid team and a playmaker at QB, if Outlaws doesn`t contain him then it could get ugly. However, Outlaws have experience and should game plan correctly, so this game is probably the closest of the week and comes down to the wire.
Hokies win 27-23

Pens Vs Diesel
Just like Portly said, "Which Diesel team will show up?", but I would like to add Which Pens team will show up? Guess we won`t find out until the first drive of the game. So for the sake of analyzing this game lets just assume both team show up full strength and ready to play. I like Diesel, who has speed in areas that will hurt the Pens. While on the other hand Pens have speed at positions Diesel should be able to neutralize.
Diesel 28-17

re: PS and Hokies

Oct 20, 2008
9:06 AM
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How can you say these two teams don`t belong, unless you`re just bitter your team didn`t make it to the B+. Both teams finished in the top 4 of their respective divisions. Both teams finished in the overall top 8.

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 20, 2008
9:19 AM
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Actually, the PS/TF game still hasn`t been recorded, and once it has PS would not be in the Top 8 overall, but that`s not what matters. They finished in the top 4 of their division, so they deserve to be in the B+ playoffs.

Now I think the guy who said they don`t belong more than likely meant that competition wise, they really didn`t fit and would be an easy first round bye for whoever plays them.

who are

Oct 20, 2008
9:23 AM
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the hokies? and is there qb that good? have not seen them play

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 20, 2008
9:31 AM
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Arm wise he`s ok, but his legs will destroy you! This kid has broken more ankles than a pissed off shylock. He makes defensive rushers look retarded.

Um

Oct 20, 2008
9:31 AM
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They play flag in this league, and no, he`s not that good, avg. at best.

he

Oct 20, 2008
9:44 AM
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is not better then united qb.....and his line suck all outlaws have to do is keep a spy on him

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 20, 2008
9:46 AM
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Very true. Their line is not great. I think they`ll have their hands full with the Outlaws` D-Line. They really bring the heat, and if they contain well it`ll be a good day for them.

he used to be

Oct 20, 2008
9:47 AM
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but now hes just a gump

word

Oct 20, 2008
9:48 AM
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on the street says that outlaws had a hard time with united qb.....rushers were there but lbs could not pull his flag

ive seen the

Oct 20, 2008
9:52 AM
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hokies qb play in the c league.....he WAS sick until he broke he leg... now hes just a gimp! Pain`s DL killed the hokies.

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 20, 2008
9:54 AM
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I only saw him once this year, but he was breaking chumps left and right.

outlaws

Oct 20, 2008
10:04 AM
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d-line is not pain.....im taking hokies in this one 17-13

Noodle Arm

Oct 20, 2008
10:10 AM
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{X} Pain`s D Line will have a field day on United


united

Oct 20, 2008
10:14 AM
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will outsmart pain and win easily 20-10
pens will also beat diesel in a high scoring game 34-24
and my upset special ps win a tight one over pkl 13-10

dizel

Oct 20, 2008
11:44 AM
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has given up the least amount of points in B+, dont sleep on their D

why

Oct 20, 2008
12:30 PM
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hasnt diesel been blowing out teams lately? they don`t seem to roll as deep as they did in the middle of the season when they would put up a crazy number of points. are they missing some players?

dre

Oct 20, 2008
12:45 PM
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im glad the majority of yall think united will win. we gave a game away to the pens. but we will be ready come this weekend.

Re: Dre

Oct 20, 2008
1:32 PM
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I don`t think everyone thinks United will win. I actually think you guys should handle them pretty easy. Pain 28 United 14. You guys are the real deal.

Um Yeah

Oct 20, 2008
1:56 PM
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Dre I don`t think you have been reading the same message board. It`s pretty much been stated by several people that United will lose. They have played a week schedule thus far and will not make it far in the playoffs.


Weak?

Oct 20, 2008
2:20 PM
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I`m not sure about a weak schedule...they basically drove the 4 players back to Diesel with their stomping of Acid the first week, they beat both PS and Outlaws (both are in the B+ Playoffs). The only thing that is weak is your spelling "week."

united

Oct 20, 2008
2:26 PM
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did nit hae a easy schedule the top 5 teams could beat pain anyday of the week.... and pain d line is good also was outlaws but until you play them u don`t know how good that qb they have is good .....close game and it might end

Steve Ahbahba

Oct 20, 2008
2:27 PM
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Oh it will definitely end. About an hour or so after it starts.

WTF?

Oct 20, 2008
2:31 PM
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What the heck did that dude say (united)? You either have nubs for fingers, or can`t type worth a lick.

united

Oct 20, 2008
2:35 PM
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i cant type lol....ur right, i said united i a tough team with that qb they have and thats why they win, he beat outlaws and alot of teams with his feet...close game i pick united to win big 24-10

united

Oct 20, 2008
2:38 PM
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is the real deal

Vet

Oct 20, 2008
2:40 PM
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as real as the Cowboys.

lol

Oct 20, 2008
2:42 PM
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no real as the skins

Noodle Arm

Oct 20, 2008
2:44 PM
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{x} As real as mudd butt

Observer

Oct 20, 2008
3:00 PM
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The key to winning games is not missing flags. Teams will have plenty of opportunities to get to United`s QB, but if you don`t pull his flags he will single handidly beat you. Their passing game is not strong, it`s the QB making defenders miss all day and either running for the 1st/TD, or then finding a sitting receiver.

re:observer

Oct 20, 2008
3:20 PM
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true its not about getting to him its about pulling flags

IFF Leaguer

Oct 21, 2008
6:59 AM
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No, as real as the Titans, Tenessee that is! Show some respect to your elders and better team!

Hollywood
Pain
coach


Oct 21, 2008
9:36 AM
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United is a very solid team. Like Observer stated, their QB is very shifty and changes the game. I look forward to hard fought game!! Good luck United. See ya Sunday.

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