Just a thought
Jul 03, 2008
1:57 PM | | ;
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Maybe we should have A, B+, B and C
The teams in B right now looks pretty evenly matched. Mutiny IMO is a solid B+ team and would probably run through all the B teams.
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Nope
Jul 03, 2008
2:00 PM | | | ; |
Then let them run through all the B teams. They will have a whole season + playoffs to prove they can "run through" them all.
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cosiging with Nope
Jul 03, 2008
2:34 PM | | | ; |
if that`s the case they should move up.
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On board with nope
Jul 03, 2008
2:45 PM | | | ; |
Barely beat titans and got squashed by United........
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Just a thought
Jul 03, 2008
2:52 PM | | | ; |
The reason for B+ is there are teams that is to strong for B and to weak for A. Mutiny is a good example.
All the teams in B right now are mostly new teams moving up from C and or past season open league with below .500
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Agree
Jul 03, 2008
2:57 PM | | | ; |
with Just a thought...I don`t believe any of the B playoff teams can hang with current A teams. We should have a B+ division for the 16 teams that made it to the Spring B playoffs.
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Just a thought
Jul 03, 2008
2:59 PM | | | ; |
Wolves, Sharks, Larrys, Dietz, Lazy are good examples of A teams
Diesel, Rhinos, Mutiny, United are good example of B+ teams.
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Nope
Jul 03, 2008
3:45 PM | | | ; |
Add Rhinos to the A mix. And I don`t agree, Mutiny, United, OITS and Titans will be the better B teams but their games with the teams moving up will be anything but blowouts.
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Nope
Jul 03, 2008
3:45 PM | | | ; |
Add Rhinos to the A mix. And I don`t agree, Mutiny, United, OITS and Titans will be the better B teams but their games with the teams moving up will be anything but blowouts.
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well
Jul 03, 2008
3:54 PM | | | ; |
United just won B. Theres a big gap between them and the A teams. Thats why there should be a B+
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Agree
Jul 03, 2008
3:55 PM | | | ; |
i think the only time you`ll see blowouts are when A teams play against lower B teams and C teams. The rest of the games could go either way.
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Agree
Jul 03, 2008
3:56 PM | | | ; |
What is your take on this Tom?
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True
Jul 03, 2008
4:02 PM | | | ; |
There is a difference from the upper echelon of "A" teams from the rest of the league. Besides that and the low "C" teams all games are pretty competitive to a point.
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i think
Jul 03, 2008
4:39 PM | | | ; |
if your new play in the C league then when you move up just should be an open league. If you suck oh well, go find some talent if you wanna compete. and yes i know this isn`t the nfl, but if you suck they sign free agents to help the team, and again yes i know this isn`t the nfl, and better players get paid to go to a crappy team. but there are players out there in flag that are good and maybe aren`t getting along with teammates and things and could be looking for a fresh new start. so if you suck oh well get better and earn your place in this league. screw all this a, b, b+, and c stuff. i`ve played on teams that sucked and we got better and recruitted some talent and got alot better. so just GET BETTER!!!!
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???
Jul 03, 2008
4:43 PM | | | ; |
What did you just say? That was the longest run-on sentence ever.
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re: i think
Jul 03, 2008
5:05 PM | | | ; |
I think I just got dumper reading that *ish
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Well
Jul 03, 2008
5:43 PM | | | ; |
Go to the bathroom then.
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Look...
Jul 03, 2008
7:14 PM | | | ; |
With that logic we`d have to have an A and A+, B and B+, and then C for the newbs. You`re thinking way too much into it.
Just play football. I think B will be fun to watch with a few of the newer teams moving up from C competing quite well.
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re: look
Jul 03, 2008
7:25 PM | | | ; |
if its just football, why not just one open league instead of A and B?
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Look idiot
Jul 03, 2008
10:48 PM | | | ; |
the reason why there are 3 divisions this season is b/c of the states being held in our area. There is an A and B level in the state tournament and this will give everyone a better idea where they stand. I think the top 5 from each division (A & B) get bids. Not sure though. So while you debate what level each team deserves to play the rest of us will be getting ready for the season. As it`s been said before there are only a few teams that can be called "top level" teams and the rest can beat the other on any given Sunday.
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my 2 cents
Jul 04, 2008
12:56 PM | | | ; |
I believe the creation of A, B, B+, and C divisions has hurt the development of teams in nothern virginia. There should be an A league with the top 16 teams and the rest should play in B. Why do you think the beach and richmond teams have surpassed the good teams in this area. I think it is because they play really good teams week in and week out. There is no cake walk games with teams like brass monkeys and i of the liger who shouldn`t even be in A. No offense but this is the plain truth. You get better by playing the best, not just 2 times each season but every week. I just think it would be more fun to watch perrenial good teams play each other in their own division. I feel they would be better prepared for states and nationals this way.
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re: my 2 cents
Jul 05, 2008
9:41 PM | | | ; |
do you really think any of these teams can compete at the national level? I have watched open play for many seasons, if this is what nationals offer, i would be saddened..
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to re my 2 cents
Jul 06, 2008
12:14 PM | | | ; |
Yes, the VA teams are always some of the better teams in nationals. Unfortunately, the last 4 years Va beach and Richmond teams have been at a different level. They are forced to get better or no state or nationals bid. I also think that we "give away" too many bids to states. Some really crappy teams go down and it is not a good representation of our league.
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Jul 07, 2008
0:46 AM | | | ; |
I`ve been to states and nationals. IMO the only difference is you haven`t seen the team you`re going to play. They play the same game we do. Some rules are a little different, but not alot. As far as Richmond and V Beach teams being better, not really. Our league is bigger and the talent is spread out a little more. If you look back 10+ years when the league was smaller and the talent was divided between 2-4 teams, NoVa represented better. Red Dogs, Brions Grille, Novas did a lot better. Now with 40+ teams and growing the talent per team is smaller but league-wise, there isn`t more talent in any league. But I do like the idea of the best teams being in one division but the only thing about that is there`s no variety in who you play. That said, the Md. league was hands down the toughest place to play this spring. Five good teams and some newbies.
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huh?
Jul 07, 2008
10:11 AM | | | ; |
richmond and beach teams aren`t better? who won the nova league this fall? who has won the state title the last 3 years?
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Jul 07, 2008
12:15 PM | | | ; |
I agree with MY TWO CENTS. There is enough "A" teams to have their own division/divisions. When the "B" or B+ teams are ready, they will move up into the "A" division. IE... The winner and runner-up of the Championship game. Likewise for the C division, two move up to "B" division. The flip side is if you have no wins for a season then I think you should move down a division. If you are already in "C" then the team has a lot of work to do.
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huh?
Jul 07, 2008
7:14 PM | | | ; |
I meant who won the spring league?
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Jul 08, 2008
10:24 AM | | | ; |
Giving serious thought to the B+ division, since it looks like we`ll have 8 for the "A", and at least 5 "B+" caliber teams in "B".
Lets see who else registers and we`ll figure it out.
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player
Jul 10, 2008
11:25 AM | | | ; |
Hopefully there will be a "B+" division because i think there will be some good games with Pain, Mutiny, Diesel and United already signed up. I think Arsenals and Showers should be in this group also-can`t wait!
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mmm
Jul 10, 2008
1:01 PM | | | ; |
wouldn`t having a B+ division just make the B division end up being last season`s C division? lump them all together so you give the c winners a chance to see where they stand?
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I think
Jul 10, 2008
1:02 PM | |
Al Bundy
Practice Squad #72
Jul 10, 2008
1:07 PM | | | ; |
wouldn`t having a B+ division just make the B division end up being last season`s C division? lump them all together so you give the c winners a chance to see where they stand?
I agree.
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Concur
Jul 10, 2008
2:13 PM | | | ; |
I agree as well, lump these teams together
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agree
Jul 14, 2008
10:43 AM | | | ; |
Might as well make B+ and B all the same so the lower teams can see what needs to be done to be successful and teams are playing different people instead of the same old games.
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Jul 14, 2008
11:14 AM | | | ; |
Its very close, and I am going to let all the B/B+ coaches vote on it once we get the 16th B/B+ team in (we have 15 as of today):
COMBINE ALL, 2 B divisions
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SEPARATE, 1 B, 1 B+
or
NO STRONG PREF
I`ve already determined where the teams will if we separate - you can see that in the standings now. If we combine, I will weight each division with 4 from the B and 4 from the B.
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Jul 14, 2008
11:15 AM | | | ; |
Also, "A" should lock up with 8 shortly - with Outcast and Goin Deep rounding it off.
We might actually close the league off this week (get 32 teams registered) if you can believe it...with 6+ weeks until opening day.
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Player
Jul 14, 2008
11:28 AM | | | ; |
If it stays like it is now TA`s going to get smashed.
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def
Jul 15, 2008
7:18 AM | | | ; |
combine B and B+ together
Also, for the teams that moved up from C to B and didnt have at least .500 record, push them back down to C. This is no charity event, seriously. Please dont use justification like years of experience, PS hasnt had a winning season yet...sorry,
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I thought
Jul 15, 2008
8:38 AM | | | ; |
the whole point of this was to prepare teams for the level of competition that they would face at states. Wouldn`t it be counter productive for a B+ team to play a rising C team that didn`t even finish .500?
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BMAN
Jul 15, 2008
8:56 AM | | | ; |
Just mix up B to have even # of top B teams in both Divisons.
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B+ supporter
Jul 15, 2008
11:31 AM | | | ; |
There should be a B+ because there are two teams that just recently won B. United and Diesel. This will give them a chance to try and earn a B+ title instead of winning the B again.
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who cares
Jul 15, 2008
12:23 PM | | | ; |
They are both B teams to start with.
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2 B+
Jul 15, 2008
12:45 PM | | | ; |
Those two teams should just be in A
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Uh no
Jul 15, 2008
1:59 PM | | | ; |
United and Diesel belong in B with all the other B level teams, its really an easy call. If you`ve seen either of these teams then you know they don`t belong in A.
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who cares
Jul 15, 2008
2:10 PM | | | ; |
concur with Uh no...They don`t belong in A.
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and
Jul 15, 2008
2:32 PM | | | ; |
thats why there should be a B+
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B+
Jul 15, 2008
2:37 PM | | | ; |
Diesel, United and Acid Reign are B champs. Non of those cats are ready for A just yet.
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On the Fence
Jul 15, 2008
2:57 PM | | | ; |
If the reason for the B+ league is to help better manage how many teams are in the total league then I agree...
But if its based off of "teams not good enough to compete in A and too good for B" then I disagree... SOMEONE HAS TO LOSE... there is a winner and a loser.. When you create this strong dominate "A" league, there will be a team in last place... then what? they should be in the B+ league as well, doesn`t make sense..
The joy of competition is knowing that ANY team can lose or beat ANY team on that given day... Breaking teams into divisions based on who one feels they can or can`t compete with is unnessacary... besides the BLATANT mismatches... In my opinion, There are no real BLATANT mismatches between MOST of the A and B teams. Plus its easy to play teams you are familiar with. You play the same 6 teams every year you get used to what they do and how they play... Mix that up and thats when the real football starts no matter if your A B or C ..
A B C league is cool... A B C D is cool... but A B B+ C.. is bleh
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Wrong
Jul 15, 2008
3:01 PM | | | ; |
There are blatant mismatches with any of the A teams against the B+/B teams. However, there are not blatant mismatches among most of the B+ and B teams. This isn`t for debate, this is fact.
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B Division
Jul 15, 2008
3:35 PM | | | ; |
Should be B division, with 2 conferences. throw all of the teams into a hat and creat 2 conferences.
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Again
Jul 15, 2008
4:00 PM | | | ; |
Lets send the under .500 C teams that moved "up" to B, back down to C.
Can we at least do that, where is the incentive if we allow those teams to move up?
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Um
Jul 15, 2008
4:22 PM | | | ; |
4 have been forced up, the others moved up because they think they can compete (which is probably true). They would play B level teams, not A, big difference.
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Coach
Jul 15, 2008
8:24 PM | | | ; |
Just an idea. What if we run B like we do open. All teams will be in the B division. Your teams record at the end of the season will either put you in the B or B+ playoffs. So the top 8 teams go to B+ & the bottom 8 go to B.
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another coach
Jul 15, 2008
9:23 PM | | | ; |
that actually sounds like a great idea
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Stop crying
Jul 15, 2008
9:33 PM | | | ; |
Hey whiners, why don`t you all keep your traps shut, and let the coaches who have a vote figure this out? Stop being afraid of a few average teams, and embrace whatever the Tom and the coaches decide.
This isn`t the first year Tom has run this league.
The End.
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re: Stop crying
Jul 16, 2008
3:54 PM | | | ; |
wow, you are such an intellect
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Mr. T
Jul 16, 2008
5:57 PM | | | ; |
I said THE END. I pity the fool who writes after that!
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FES
Jul 16, 2008
7:27 PM | | | ; |
I said good day, I said good day
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Big Baller
Jul 18, 2008
11:12 AM | | | ; |
!Por Favor, No Rompa Mis Cojones! Gracias!
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Dat Dude
Jul 23, 2008
7:27 PM | | | ; |
Why is TA in the B+ Division? 1 season doesn`t make you close to A caliber! I think they still have a whole lot more proving to do in the B division. I`m pretty sure they`ll have a losing record when everything is said and done.
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Word on the Street
Jul 24, 2008
12:56 PM | | | ; |
We beat everyone we played in C last season. And with most of those teams moving up we wanted more competition. That`s why we are playing in B+.
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But...
Jul 24, 2008
1:21 PM | | | ; |
You beat CN by a TD both times you played them. Don`t you think those games could have gone either way?
Should CN be a "B+" team?
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um
Jul 24, 2008
1:24 PM | | | ; |
actually the first game we won by 2 tds.... get your facts straight or STFUP.... and no we dont think those games could have gone either way. except for the very first game of the season when we were down 6-0, we never trailed in a game....
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I say agian...
Jul 24, 2008
1:38 PM | | | ; |
TA is going to get smashed in B+.
Also, I guess this means they are the early favorite to win the Reston Cup. Hahahahaha
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um
Jul 24, 2008
1:41 PM | | | ; |
I say again... you have a lot to say about TA, yet you dont mention what team you play for. You probably play for a C team TA beat this past season.
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Reality
Jul 24, 2008
2:01 PM | | | ; |
All the teams in B+/B should be playing each other. It`s all B level teams. I don`t understand all the crying of TA moving up, in reality it`s the most logical step for them to be mixed in with B level teams. You take out the A teams and most of the B/B+ level teams will have competitive games.
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TA
Jul 24, 2008
2:22 PM | | | ; |
theres no crying coming from TA about moving up, We asked Tom what he thinks we should do and he said we should play in B+. hummm who should we listen to, all you bama`s or the guy that runs the league. I think we`ll go with Tom`s judgement call on this one.
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Jul 24, 2008
2:43 PM | | | ; |
Are Teams allowed to "pick" what league they want to play in?
That`s about as simple as it gets... if that is the case, things should be rethought
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TA`s right
Jul 24, 2008
3:35 PM | | | ; |
Most of the teams in this league are too afraid to move up. i commend TA for wanting to move higher and test themselves this season. Too many teams try to play in the lowest possible division to help their self esteem when playing better competition (i.e. in the A league) would benefit their teams more. This B+ crap was instituted b/c too many teams were afraid to move up. now the A division has less teams in it than any other and it`s getting very boring playing the same 4 teams over and over...move up guys and give yourselves a chance!
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In Reality
Jul 24, 2008
4:05 PM | | | ; |
No one is scared to move up. "A" is locked at 8 this fall to give those guys a chance to compete at the level they will face at states. I imagine "A" teams from the spring like Pain, Outlaws, and Diesel would play in "A" this fall if they could. In fact, this system hurts those kinds of teams because they are forced to play teams that 10 times out of 10 they will beat.
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Get a Clue In Reality
Jul 24, 2008
7:26 PM | |
Mr. Suggestor
Aug 03, 2008
5:33 PM | | | ; |
Someone mentioned before having a B conference. That might just be a great idea. If you look at the Reston Cup, they said TA lost to the Penetrators who just had a bad Spring season, so that means anything can happen.
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