To Locs (LB for rhinos)
Jun 03, 2008
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Locs, you have shared some good insight in the past and was wondering what defensive lineup you and the rhinos use to slow(and notice I did not say stop) the spread offense. Anyone else that has some useful tips feel free to share. I thought Lazy had a good game plan because I saw them play against NOVAS spread a few years back but I watched their game against Diesel and it didn`t seem too effective.
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Rhinos92Locs
registered poster
Jun 04, 2008
0:23 AM | | | ; |
Football strategy talk, I love it. Now I can’t tell you what the Rhinos run against the spread because that’s proprietary information. But I can give you some tips and tricks against the most common spread offenses seen in this league.
First of all, there are several variables that come in to play when defending the spread. These variables include your personnel, the type of spread they run and the opponent’s qb style of play. The only way that you truly stop the spread offense is through true defensive discipline. Here are probably the most common spread offenses that I see in this league and here is what you should do to defend against them:
1. Spread offense with quick QB release.
a. I’ve seen many teams want to defend this type of offense by playing man. Your team may have some shut down corners but do you trust and truly believe that every man on your defense has good man to man cover skills? Any good QB will find the mismatch and work that mismatch up and down the field all day. Remember the qb is delivering the ball quick which means the patterns are short and quick. If your defensive linemen are good, the qb will not have the time to throw deep. I see so many corners playing damn near 10 yards back against receivers in this offense and teams playing with 2 deep safeties. Why?
2. Spread offense with double passes.
a. Some of my teammates and I sit back and laugh to ourselves when we see undisciplined teams defend this type of offense. We see entire defenses swarm to the double pass. Why? Is the guy not behind the line of scrimmage? Is it that everyone wants to make the big play? Here is what you do. Have one person attack the double pass. Have someone assigned to attack the double pass on the left and one person on the right. Let them double pass hundred times if they want. Stay in your defense!!! You have the assigned double pass defender attacking the double passer and your d linemen should be on the pursuit as well. Here is another tip that qbs are not going to like but it’s perfectly legal. If the offense likes to pass it back to the qb, either ; 1.)Have the d line men rushing the qb grab his flag after the initial pass, 2.)After the qb has delivered the initial pass and he is still in the back field, well, he is fair game.
3. Spread offense with the very quick, running qb.
a. This is the offense that you see many of the top teams in Nationals and State run. It can make for a long day if your not disciplined and don’t have the personnel to match up. If you decide to rush 2 men, it is not your d linemen day to have a big sack day. Their #1 job is to keep containment on that qb. That means a controlled rush. If that qb breaks containment, you might as well shoot the gun that they use to start the races at the Penn Relays because the track meet has begun. If you have a really fast guy, that can pull flags really well, send him after the qb. If you have another guy like that on your defense, line both of them on the line of scrimmage and alternate them rushing that way the qb gets different looks and will not know which one is rushing and which one is dropping back in coverage. If you have the personnel to run man against this type of offense, it is really crucial that your d linemen keep containment.
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Al Bundy
Practice Squad #72
Jun 04, 2008
0:58 AM | | | ; |
Have the d line men rushing the qb grab his flag after the initial pass
Wouldn`t this be illegal deflagging?
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Rhinos92Locs
registered poster
Jun 04, 2008
1:06 AM | | | ; |
Not if your making a whole hearted effort to get the sack. You gotta sell it.
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Al Bundy
Practice Squad #72
Jun 04, 2008
1:10 AM | | | ; |
Ah, so to put it in basketball terms you mean flop.
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initial thread starter
Jun 04, 2008
8:06 AM | | | ; |
Wow Locs, thanks for the insight... even more than I expected.
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Rhino #33
Jun 04, 2008
8:44 AM | | | ; |
And to finalize Loc`s comments... have some tall people to block 50 yd field goals!!
Cheers Wolves...
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Diesel 7
Jun 04, 2008
9:10 AM | | | ; |
Yo Locs!
Why are you giving these people bad information. The only way to stop a spread is to play zone D. Rush 4 or 5 at the QB and not worry about the second guy in the backfield.
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Rhinos92Locs
registered poster
Jun 04, 2008
12:50 PM | | | ; |
LOL. Sorry man. I had to give the people what they wanted.
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yo
Jun 04, 2008
1:50 PM | | | ; |
who won? Rhinos or Banditos? what was the final score?
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Rhinos #33
Jun 04, 2008
1:52 PM | | | ; |
Game is tonight but to answer your question we will win 28-0 or 34-7 something like that.
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wow
Jun 04, 2008
2:14 PM | | | ; |
Rhino`s talking some ****....we`ll see tonight.
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Rhinos92Locs
registered poster
Jun 04, 2008
2:38 PM | | | ; |
I don`t think that was my man saying that but I am honored to be the opening act for the weeknight A & B championship games tonight. I feel like I`m on JV.
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Diesel 7
Jun 04, 2008
2:57 PM | | | ; |
Good luck tonight Rhinos
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Rhino #33
Jun 04, 2008
3:20 PM | | | ; |
Indeed the earlier Rhino #33 was not me. Some clever lad figured out how to dub my sign on. Nothing but luck to the Banditos... if we even have the game. I`m sitting in the middle of a tornado right now in Tysons.
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bob ryan
Jun 04, 2008
3:21 PM | | | ; |
extremely wet field conditions.
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