Observer
May 27, 2008
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11 Mutiny 70.4+sos(26.2)=96.6
12 Badboyz 69.2+sos(22.3)=91.5
13 Vegas Nights 55.6+sos(28.1)=83.7
14 United 55.4+sos(26.4)=81.8
15 All Makes&Model 53.3+sos(27.4)=80.7
16 Playmakers 49.0+sos(29.1)=78.1
17 Off in the Show 55.0+sos(17.5)=72.5
18 MAC Daddies 51.0+sos(21.2)=72.2
19 Titans 38.3+sos(30.5)=68.8
20 CCR NOVAs 41.1+sos(27.6)=68.7
21 Outlaws 36.2+sos(32.3)=68.5
22 DWC 38.8+sos(24.9)=63.7
Who is in, and who is out? Who is the strongest teams out of this bunch?
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huh
May 27, 2008
1:39 PM | | | ; |
How many in A? What is the cut off?
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balh
May 27, 2008
2:04 PM | | | ; |
I believe that they take the top 16. Only 1 more week to raise your seed. I believe there are a few teams that will lose this last week and lose some spots. A few good matchups this week.
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see
May 27, 2008
2:06 PM | | | ; |
If the Novas would ever have a full team, they would be decent, but I think they are out!
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word on the street
May 27, 2008
2:38 PM | | | ; |
is that we better start looking at the first 18 spots cause rumor has it that DMOB and Sharks might sit out cause they got thier bid already
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If that happened
May 27, 2008
2:54 PM | | | ; |
I bet we still take top 16 and they just forfeit, cant see sharks not playing though
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not true
May 27, 2008
3:03 PM | | | ; |
They might tell tom so other teams can have thier spot
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are those
May 27, 2008
3:34 PM | | | ; |
the official rankings?? i thought they come from the overall standings tab
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tell me
May 27, 2008
4:23 PM | | | ; |
Mac Daddies play Hokies, will a win put them in?
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May 27, 2008
5:33 PM | | | ; |
Official Rankings for the purpose of playoff seeding are on the "Overall Standings" tab of the season index.
I will take the rankings as is after all scores are in, and make any adjustments necessary (for instance head to head in the case of teams ranked in succession).
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Tom how does this work ?
May 27, 2008
7:17 PM | | | ; |
Head to Head
Badboyz beat Vegas nights
Vegas Nights beat Playmakers
Playmakers beat Badboyz
If we all finish 4-3 head 2 head is a wash correct? So I assume we then go to AVPD?
Thanks in advance
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thinker
May 28, 2008
8:05 AM | | | ; |
can we get some senarios on how certian teams can move up or down.....
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+ -
May 28, 2008
8:45 AM | | | ; |
Yes if you win you may go up if you lose you may go down.
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tie-break
May 28, 2008
10:04 AM | | | ; |
if three teams are tied and head-to-head is a wash, you look at AVPD of only the three games between those tied teams (not overall AVPD)
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May 28, 2008
1:13 PM | | | ; |
Tom how does this work ?
In order to apply head to head, the teams must be ranked adjacently in the overall standings. We`re looking at overall standings for playoff positions 5-16 (not division standings).
Lets say team A and team B are from the same division, finish with identical records, and are ranked #10 (A) and #11 (B) in the overall standings. They would swap places if team B had beaten team A during the season.
Now, lets say they finish #10 (A), #11 (another team neither has played) and #12 (B). B cannot leapfrog #11 to swap with A at #10.
In the case of 3 teams tied who each played at least one of the others, it is the head to head record, then point differential in the games between those teams only.
For example, Outcast beat Coyotes by 7, Coyotes beat Dietze Nuts by 4. If Dietze beats Outcast and the teams win their other games, and all 3 of those teams finish 6-1, it will be the team with the higher point differential in the 3 games between them:
Coyotes: +4, -7 = -3
Outcast: +7, -? = ?
Dietze: -4, +? = ?
Dietze not only has to beat Outcast, they have to beat them by 6 or more points to win the tiebreak:
Coyotes: +4, -7 = -3
Outcast: +7, -6 = +1
Dietze: -4, +6 = +2
If they win by 5 or less, Outcast still wins the division:
Coyotes: +4, -7 = -3
Outcast: +7, -5 = +2
Dietze: -4, +5 = +1
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May 28, 2008
1:26 PM | | | ; |
can we get some senarios on how certian teams can move up or down.....
These teams have clinched "A" playoff berths:
1 Diesel *** 6-0.
(Won division and a top 4 seed, wins #1 overall seed with a win SUN over Brass Monkeys and Wolves loss or tie to Off in the Shower, or if the Diesel margin of voctory is equal to or greater than Wolves over Off in the Shower. Gets #2 overall seed with a win and Wolves win over Off in the Shower by Diesel margin of voctory over Brass Monkeys+1.)
2 Wolves *** 6-0
(Won division and a top 4 seed, wins #1 overall seed with a win SUN over Off in the Shower and Diesel loss or tie to Brass Monkeys, or if the Diesel margin of voctory is less than Wolves over Off in the Shower.)
3 Outcast 5-0
(Wins division and #3 overall seed with a victories over Dietze Nuts and DWC, or can still win division and #4 overall seed with a victory over DWC and a tie with or loss to Dietze Nuts of less than 6 points, or with 2 tie games SUN.)
4 D.M. *** 6-0-1
(Won division and at least #4 overall seed. Will move up to the #3 seed if Outcast does not win both games SUN.)
5 Sharks 6-0-1
(Locked into the #5 overall seed - highest ranked non-division winner, cannot advance or drop.)
6 Lazy Sundae 5-1
(Will hold the #6 position with a win SUN. Will drop to between 8-10 with a loss.)
7 Coyotes 5-1
(Wins division and #4 overall seed if they win SUN and Outcast loses both games, or loses one and ties the other. Could drop to 8-12 with a loss.)
9 Larrys 4 1 1
(Could move up to #6, #7, or #8 if teams currently ranked above them lose.)
These teams have not clinched "A" playoff berths, but control their own fate:
8 Dietze Nuts 4-1
(Wins division by winning both games SUN and Oucast beating DWC and beating Outcast by 8 or more points.)
10 Rhinos 3-1-1
(Clinches "A" berth by winning at least 1 or their 2 remaining games. Could move up to #6, #7, #8 or #9 if teams currently ranked above them lose and they win both remaining games. If they lose both games, the chance to make the "A" playoffs is slim.)
11 Mutiny 4-2
(Clinches "A" berth with a win SUN, and could move up a couple slots if teams currently ranked above them lose. A loss SUN coupled with wins by all teams #14 - #18 could cost them an "A" berth.)
These teams have not clinched "A" playoff berths, but are almost certainly in:
12 Badboyz 4-3
(Will clinch an "A" berth, unless 5 teams below them win one or more games by 50-60 points.)
These teams have not clinched "A" playoff berths, but almost control their own fate:
14 Vegas Nights 3-3
(Can clinch an "A" playoff berth with a big win SUN, or just a win and no more than 3 wins 40+ points by teams ranked below them through #18. Slim chance with a tie, out with a loss.)
15 Off in the Shower 3-3
(same situation as Vegas Nights.)
16 All Makes&Models 3-3
(Needs a win with a sufficient point cushion to insure against other teams passing them up.)
17 MAC Daddies 2-2-2
(Needs a win by a sufficient points to pass teams currently ranked ahead and prevent teams behind from surpassing, or a win and a loss by at least one of #14-#16.)
18 Playmakers 3-3
(Needs a big win SUN to launch into the top 16 among 4-3 teams and prevent the 2-3 teams behind from surpassing with 2 wins, or a win by enough to hold off any 2-3 team who wins their final 2 games and a loss by one of #14-#17.)
These teams will need significant help to clinch an "A" playoff berth:
13 United 4-3
(Can clinch an "A" playoff berth with a loss or tie by 3 or more of the teams ranked #14 - #18, and one loss or one tie by all of the teams ranked #21 - #23; who each have 2 games left.)
19 CCR NOVAs 2-3-1
(Needs a win, and losses by at least 3 of the teams ranked #14-#18, and one loss by each of the teams currently 2-3 in their final 2 games.)
20 Titans 2-3-1
(Needs a win by sufficient margin to pass NOVAs or win and NOVAs loss or tie, and losses by at least 3 of the teams ranked #14-#18, and one loss by each of the teams currently 2-3 in their final 2 games.)
21 DWC 2-3
(Needs to win final 2 games by a big enough combined margin to land in the top 16, or win final 2 games and a loss or tie for 3 of the teams currently ranked #14-#18 and have a higher point differential than #22 or #23 if either of those teams wins both games.)
22 Banditos 2-3
(same as DWC)
23 Outlaws 2-3
(same as DWC)
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so you`re saying.....
May 28, 2008
1:32 PM | | | ; |
that anything can happen.......now I understand completely
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helpful
May 28, 2008
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what
May 28, 2008
2:32 PM | | | ; |
the guy just spent all that time explaining how many games teams need to win, by how much, who they need to lose, and you come back with a sarcastic "so anything can happen". what a jerk
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Nice!
May 28, 2008
2:42 PM | | | ; |
Tom, that makes things pretty clear for almost all the teams Thanks for the details.
Bottom line, teams need to win!
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Lloyd Christmas
May 28, 2008
2:47 PM | | | ; |
So you`re tellin` me there`s a chance...
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suggester
May 28, 2008
2:55 PM | | | ; |
I think the most fair way to do it is all the teams who are 4-3 in the end get to play each other first to see who gets into A and who has to go to B. How about it?
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Ummm....no.
May 28, 2008
3:34 PM | |
Scarry Larry
May 28, 2008
9:35 PM | | | ; |
Sharks #5 vs Badboyz #12...GREAT MATCH-up...again
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SLASH
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May 28, 2008
10:16 PM | | | ; |
probably wont happen you guys probably move up after this weekends games but that would be a prime time round 1 game
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re: Lloyd Christmas
May 29, 2008
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re: Scarry Larry
May 29, 2008
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Scarry Larry
Jun 01, 2008
7:30 PM | | | ; |
Mutiny went from 11 to 17th.....that sucks for them
5 teams from MD baby!
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True
Jun 01, 2008
8:01 PM | | | ; |
Must be nice to have 3 cupcake games in that division, look at the Points Against numbers for those bottom 3, pathetic.
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yea but
Jun 01, 2008
8:41 PM | | | ; |
look at the top of that division probably the toughest we got right now.......so stop hating
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Scarry Larry
Jun 01, 2008
8:55 PM | | | ; |
1. D-Mob
2. Sharks
3. BB
4. Vegas Nights
5. Playmakers
There is no division in VA that could put their top 5 teams against the MD division and have a chance of winning more than 1 game!
if you think there is a VA division that can line this up 1 vs 1 and so on....you must be smoking crack!
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Larry, aka the idiot.
Jun 01, 2008
9:00 PM | | | ; |
The top two "Maryland" teams are from Virginia! Larry, you are a moron.
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Intelligent Larry
Jun 01, 2008
10:33 PM | | | ; |
Hey backwood VA moran....I think I mentioned MD division! That means no matter where the team calls home they are playing in the MD divison....therefore 5 teams in MD divison...find me a stronger divison P.A.B.
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2 larry
Jun 01, 2008
10:49 PM | | | ; |
the beach, or richmond league where the last 5 states winners have came from.
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Scarry Larry
Jun 02, 2008
5:12 PM | | | ; |
you may be correct the southern leageus are much stronger than the Northern VA leagues. I should have been more specific and mentioned I was only reffering to the IFFL Reston divisons.
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hooker
Jun 02, 2008
9:38 PM | | | ; |
Hook Division stacks up well against MD. Maryland could be 5-0 versus Hook or it could be 1-4. If you go eight deep, then Hook is tougher top to bottom.
Wolves vs. DM -- slight edge to DM
Larrys vs. Sharks -- Sharks
Rhinos vs. BB -- toss up
United vs. Vegas -- toss up
Pain vs. Playmaker -- toss up
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OITS vs. Chuds -- toss up
Arsenal vs. Newbies* -- Arsenal
Banditos vs. Grand Hustle* -- Banditos
* Have not seen these guys play so these could be a toss-up as well
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Scarry Larry
Jun 02, 2008
11:52 PM | | | ; |
would be good matchup if we had an inter-divison. BB are 3-0 vs Rhinos the last 3 times we played them...I would say top 3 all MD divison...4-5 toss up. Our bottom 3 were really bad....not sure about Hooks
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hooker
Jun 03, 2008
10:00 AM | | | ; |
sounds about right, too bad we don`t have something like an ACC - Big 10 Challenge like they do in college basketball.
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