hmmmm
Oct 01, 2007
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Watched some of the games on Sunday at Poplar tree. Some physical play. Good to see everyone was bringing it.
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Hmmmmm
Oct 01, 2007
2:44 PM | | | ; |
You can "bring it" in a no touch flag league ?? Thats interesting..
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Al Bundy
Oct 01, 2007
2:51 PM | | | ; |
You can bring it on the line. Best part about this game. It gives us fat, slow guys something to do.
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must be
Oct 01, 2007
2:53 PM | | | ; |
must be c league team where the linemen weigh 150 saying that.
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Al Bundy
Oct 01, 2007
2:54 PM | |
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Oct 01, 2007
3:08 PM | | | ; |
I hear a lot of talk about people "bringing it." I`ve been "bringing it" since I was three years old. You can "bring it" in a flag football league, you just can`t "bring it to the max." While this league isn`t full contact, there are plenty of opportunities to "bring it." I think teams could actually "bring it" a little more. The more "it gets brought," the better. I try to "bring it" on every play, but I`ve noticed some of my opponents don`t appreciate having "it being broughten." I think the refs sometimes discourage "bringing it." I say everyone makes a concentrated effort to "bring it" even more.
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Spirit Finger
Oct 01, 2007
3:13 PM | | | ; |
Are you guys talking about the movie?
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Observer - Sunday
Oct 01, 2007
3:19 PM | | | ; |
I witnessed some of the best physical play for flag football during the Dietze Nutz vs. Lazy Sundae game. Both lines have solid, athletic 230-270 lb. linemen that were extremely physical but with no dirty players. Two of the best, disciplined teams in the league, and exciting to watch. They definitely both "Brought It", and that is why they are always in the top of the standings.
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Flag football observer
Oct 01, 2007
3:30 PM | | | ; |
i`ve watched this league for a few weeks and still trying to figure out why teams don`t do away with the OL all together and just spread the field with WRs (most 7on7 and 8on8 teams that are successful at the national level do this)
Playing on a 100-yard regulation field you can spread the field from sideline to sideline (really open things up big time) and expose those `big boys` along the defenive line - make them cover somebody.
Flag football is a finesse game made for QBs and WRs (a game build for speed and quickness not brawn and bulk) -- Flag football is a 5 and turn around game -- if you get 5 yards on every play you`ll move right down the field (4 downs x 5 yards = 20 yards...and a first down)
I`d recommend spreading it from sideline to sideline and i`ve your QB is worth anything he`ll be able to beat one rusher one on one (with no one blocking) and find an open WR in the zone (the key to a successful flag offense is also having a center who can get the ball back quick and deep (at least 10-15 yards back).
Also noticed that teams don`t have much `flag sense` -- knowing where they are on the field, stopping short prior to zone to gain lines, etc.
Have noticed some very talented players -- couple that with some flag sense and this area could produce some pretty good teams.
Just my observations
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hmmmm 2 must not play ball
Oct 01, 2007
3:36 PM | | | ; |
This is not a "no touch flag league", its a no down field blocking league. I played 2 years in the signal hill league, full contact flag with down field blocking, it was stupid... nothing but fights and injuries. Other than the fact that the manassas league alows down field blocks and stiff arms, I find no difference on the line of scrimage and 5 yards off.
Maybe if Hmmmmmm 2 was on a football field he would see that.
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Rhinos92Locs
Oct 01, 2007
4:05 PM | | | ; |
To the first Hmmmmm: I`d like for you to have a conversation with my knees and ask them whether some of the guys in this league "bring it" on Sunday.
To Flag Football Observer: I can`t say that I can argue with you on that one. That is what you usually see down at states. However, I will add that in order for you to run that spread offense effectively the qb has to be very mobile and a very good passer. Realistically, you`ll usually find one or the other. As a counter point to the spread, I betcha I can run an offense with three linemen that will put up the same amount of points as your ideal spread. The only caveat to that is that my three linemen have to be versatile (be able to block, catch and run). And I`ll take one of them that can pass also.
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Oldie
Oct 01, 2007
6:07 PM | | | ; |
The point about the spread seems logical, but its easier said than done:
1)in the red zone, the spread is harder unless you have a qb with a great arm.
2)the last 2 dominant teams: my plumber of yester year and the sharks, were both straight passing team with great lines
3)very few players are fast, with good arms, AND able to make decisions under immediate pressure which is what the spread requires...and if you have that player, why not give him 3 seconds to survey the field? let him run the option? etc. spread has fewer options.
4)with everyone elligible, you are giving up a weapon: taking a 2 way player and making him one way. sure, in the spread guys can block and stuff, but no where near as effectively (vs. an experienced defense, anyways)
having said that, its definitely easier to find wrs than big boys...no doubt about that!, so going spread is better than throwing 3 bad linemen out there.
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Wolves
Oct 02, 2007
9:04 AM | | | ; |
The Wolves have been great the past few seasons, and they run something close to the spread.
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Oldie
Oct 02, 2007
9:11 AM | | | ; |
No doubt about it. They have tons of speed, and instead of getting some big guys they stick with speed. I am only talking about as an offensive philosophy in general. And 1-2 more championships, they should be thrown in the same category as the Sharks/My Plumber.
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Flag football observer
Oct 02, 2007
11:48 AM | | | ; |
basically flag football comes down to the QB -- he has to bring you a run-pass option and he has to be quick enough to beat a rusher one on one (all of my exp has been in screen flag - no contact along the line except for screen blocking - therefore I`m familiar with offenses that utitize everyone as a WR).
I used to run a screen league (7on7) and played on teams that consistenly went to the intramural national championships in college so I guess i`m just used to seeing flag played that way.
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Hey
Oct 02, 2007
8:06 PM | | | ; |
Flag football observer, you are a tool.
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Flag football observer
Oct 03, 2007
1:25 PM | | | ; |
a flag football tool maybe...i know the rules, know how to play the game and i guarantee my previous teams (in LA and NC) would wipe the field with most of the the teams i`ve seen in this league (i`m willing to bet the most of the teams from this area get destroyed if they go to national tourneys)
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FFO should
Oct 03, 2007
1:56 PM | | | ; |
.... Sounds like observer is your starting position, haha, the only thing you will be wiping is the jizz driping from your lip.
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Oldie
Oct 03, 2007
2:03 PM | | | ; |
Mobility sure helps, but Plumber/Sharks didnt have very mobile qbs. Their qbs were smart, got rid of the ball quickly and had great timing.
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had great lines...man, I tell you, 3 studs at OL is THE hardest thing to find...hence, the spread exists.
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Diamonds are Forever
Oct 03, 2007
5:43 PM | | | ; |
To FFO:
You sound really creepy. Do you just happen to catch our games while you`re "observing" the youth league games?
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