What if United loses to the Wolfpack?
If United Loses and the Truth wins, they should take over as top seed. Which means United will face NTAC instead of Chuck Norris. NTAC and Chuck Norris is about the same quality with NTAC having the edge. Okay, after the NTAC game, they will face the winner of Pens or Mutiny. Either way they play teams that they have seen and beatin this season. Much easier road in the playoffs, than having to face CN, then Vegas Nights, then the Pens or Truth. By the way, why are only 6 teams from B league in the playoffs while all 10 teams from A get into the post season. Top 8 in each division should make it to the post season. Its unfair to Team Franchise and Midgets. Do they make it into the C playoffs? I bet anybody, either team TF or Migs could win that division.

Playoff Rundown:

(1) United vs (8)Chuck Norris
(2) Truth vs (7) NTAC
(3) Pens vs (6) Mutiny
(4) Vegas vs (5) Outcast

(1) United vs (4)Vegas
(2) Truth vs (3) Pens

(4) Vegas vs (3) Pens

If United Loses.

(1) Truth vs (8) Chuck Norris
(2) United vs (7) NTAC
(3) Pens vs (6) Mutiny
(4) Vegas vs (5) Outcast

(1) Truth vs (4) Vegas
(2) United vs (3) Pens

B Championship

United vs Vegas

Vegas will still win the title but United will be runner up.

No way Mutiny loses to Truth

Why not? Both teams look like their on the same level to me.

F`ing way that Midgets or TF could win the "C" division, they would occupy spots 4 & 5 respectively in "C" and that is being kind. Besides, they do not deserve the right to be in the playoffs, this is not an entitlement league. You earn it by winning and having a good record. Good Luck to the TOP 6 teams from "B" and *****t on the two drop down losers from "A".

We won`t lose on purpose for a better playoff scenario. If wolfpack beats us its because they were better team Sunday.

game of the week will be that game, Truth/Mutiny.
truth has giving up 26 pts in 7 games and Mutiny has the 2nd highest points in b, that will be a game to see.

game will prove how potent both offenses and defenses are going into the big games.

I dont think Mutiny will be able to score in their normal fashion, TF D is pretty tight....

Truth has had a weak schedule. Lost to the only good team they played. Mutiny by 13 points

Mutiny lost to the 2 good teams they played as well.

Yea by a bad snap and a dropped pass by the WR that turned into an INT. Since then they have been on fire.

the 1st game of the season 7-3 to the pens

And they will lose again this Sunday.

Where do you get your information from, know the facts before you post

15-28-6 that`s the combined record of their opponents. 5 of those wins come from the penetrators. that`s a weak schedule if you ask me.

but Mutiny`s opponents are a combined 22-23-4, with 12 of those wins coming from United and Penetrators (teams they lost to). If you only look at teams both have beat, Mutiny has faced opponents with a combined record of 10-22-3 and Truth`s opponents are 10-27-5. Both teams have been beating up on the bottom dwellers.

Hell, doing this same thing for every team in the B division and calculating the winning percentage of the opponents they beat (ties count for .5 of a win, think this is what Tom does...) you realize that everybody`s percentage is below .500. This is probably because there are only 5 teams with winning records out of the 12 B teams. Pens and United are the only ones whose opponents have a winning percentage above .4. Maybe that says who should be the favorites heading into the playoffs...

United 22-23-4 = .490
Truth 10-27-5 = .300
Pens 14-19-2 = .429
Mutiny 10-22-3 = .329
NTAC 8-23-4 = .286
CN 4-16-1 = .214
TF 2-10-2 = .214
Midgets 2-11-1 = .179
Wildcats 1-6-0 = .143
TA 2-5-0 = .286
WP 1-5-1 = .214
GR 1-5-1 = .214

good job w/ the excel.

More like no life. You are a loser just for writing that post

wrote the 2nd post on this thread saying that Vegas is going to take the ship is tripping. Vegas has lost to United, Penatrators, and Oucast all this year so how would you make them the favorite?

i`m pretty sure the midgets could win c there point differntial i .08 this season, lost a few games by 1 point to teams that made the b playoffs

Never eva,eva,eva,eva,eva,eva,eva,eva, mention the name Midgets on a playoff thread.

bet the TOP 3 Teams in "C" could beat the bottom 6 teams in "B" any given day of the week. They should have a TOILeT Bowl for the bottom feeders.

midgets midgets midgets midgets midgets midgets midgets midgets... aaaaaaaaand midgets.

This should you give you a idea of how your C team would do in B:

Midgets played in B their first season and lost every single game. They moved down to C and went 5-2 even crushing some teams. Now they are back to being bottom dwellers in the B division.

Grand Hustle played in B and lost every single game they played. When they moved down and they were actually one of the better C teams. Over the summer they played Chuck Norris (a bottom to mid B team) and got spanked 28-0.

Chuck Norris this is their best season in B ever. The consistent B bottom dweller managed to have a good season and even make it to the championship game in C.

Ligers played in B and didn`t even score a point the whole season but managed to have some success in the C division.

In my opinion the top C team could pull off a close to .500 season give or take a game. The other top teams would be right along in the B basement. Yes they could possible do better in due time but not likely in their first season.

there are a few C teams out there that could run with the A and B leagues, Lions if they would have stuck around they might had made some noise in B (Heard the quarterback went to Rhinos), another good mention is Collision, they are doing average on Sunday mornings and pretty decent on Week nights and they went from C to Open to A. Point is, the difference between A, B and C level is just a matter of organization, athleticism is seen in every division.

Midgets started in Open, not B. Have struggled ever since moving back up to Open/ B. Even though they were 5-1-1 in C they probably were not ready to move up yet. They could beat most if not all the teams that are in C currently though.

GH started in MD Open, not B. Then dropped to B and got smacked again. They should not be having this much trouble in C. Hudge underacheivers b/c they actually have talent. My guess is it is hard to get guys to drive from MD for all of their games.

Liger started in Open, not B. Have gotten better but still are a true C team.

The truth of the matter is there is a big difference b/t C and Open. Hats off to Collision for making the jump and succeeding. The only real difference b/t B and C is most of the B teams have at least 3 or 4 seasons under their belt. I think that there are some current C teams that could win games in B but not A.

The current make-up of B is unique in the fact that most of the teams in B all moved up from C at the same time so they are pretty much on the same level. CN, Midgets, WP, TA II, TF, and the Truth (TF and the Truth used to be Practice Squad) all moved up after the 2008 Spring season.

Who knows how the Lions would have worked out? Things must not be working out well because the Rhinos are struggling to score points this year. Team America was just as impressive in C and you see what they look like now.

Collision is a special case because they were playing in a couple of different leagues and have many games under their belt. I played them their first year in C and they were awful but now look at them. If a C team thinks they are good now believe me the more games a team plays the better they will become. You`re right about the athleticism in every division but organization has to be there as well and takes time.

THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THIS!!! If every team in A is guaranteed post season play, why are only 6 teams making it in the B Division. Why not have the same concept of A Division play for the B Division. The bottom two teams in B go into the C playoffs. Period!! Why does C have 8 teams in their division make the playoffs? My only guess is that you want to keep the new/C league teams happy and keep signing up. Midgets, TF, Goldrush, and Wilcats, one of these teams would easily make it to the finals for the C Title.

this is where Tom comes in and sets the record straight...every team in A makes playoffs, the trade-off is that B gets an extra reg season game.

Who cares about the extra game, when you can get a chance to make the playoffs. So B Division gets an extra game while the two poops in A can get a chance to Win a Trophy. Wow, We all should sign up for A league. We all can lose to the better teams and get in the playoffs. Yeah!! for A. Or maybe just get into C and do it straight out. I think the B Division is getting short changed because there are just too many teams in the league. Every division should get the same treatment. Top seed 8 make it. I`m not a tard, just being logical.

I don`t think that the QB for the Rhinos is bad, but its the fact that he doesn`t have anyone to throw to that can consistently make plays for him like he had on the Lions.I thought they looked alright in the beginning of the fall season, but somewhere they just offensively fell apart.

I guess I made my point, that why my post was taken off the board.

If you want change you must vote, Tom invites all the team captains to the pre-season meeting to vote on "many" of the topics i have seen on this message board this year. Your captains voted for the schedules this year, again if you want change, you need to voice your concerns BEFORE the season starts, not at the end.